Showing posts with label Clement Reid. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Clement Reid. Show all posts

Saturday, September 13, 2025

Playlist

Columbia River, from Maryhill Museum of Art
Preface

"And now G comes after F. What did you say I said G comes after F. Anyway it does.
G is George Jelly Gus and Gertrude.
Nobody is so rude
Not to remember Gertrude."

Gertrude Stein - from "To Do a Book of Alphabets and Birthdays"

Texts

Live

September 12, 2025

Puget Sounds - Contemporary Music, New Performances from King, Kitsap and Pierce County
Chapel Performance Space, Good Shepherd Center, Seattle

Three Little Preludes for Flute and Guitar, Op. 22 - Daniel Carr - Grace Jun, flute; Victor Lucas, guitar

fragments I have shored against my ruins - William Dougherty - Sandesh Nagaraj, feedback; Carlos Cotallo, feedback; William Dougherty, feedback and piano

Nocturne - Clement Reid - Clement Reid, piano

Seven Pieces for Solo Piano, Op. 28 - Daniel Carr - Mayumi Tayake, piano

Four Songs from Bringing in the Tides: Seven Songs on Poems by 20th Century Women Poets - Gregory Youtz - Erin Calta, mezzo soprano, Sheila Bristow, piano

Passacaglia (after Boito) - Keith Eisenbrey - Keith Eisenbrey, piano

Brass Quartet - Carson Farley

Kluster/Orchestration - Carson Farley

Rhythmic Invention - Carson Farley

Since I was performing I did not take notes, but it was a pleasure to hear from so many planets all at once. I was especially pleased to be on the same bill with one of my University of Washington classmates, Gregory Youtz, for the first time since 1980 or so. Aaron was there and took a picture of the three of us, for old time's sake. Thank you Carson and Clement for inviting me to participate! Excellent job putting this together!

Recorded

Walla Walla, WA
September 6, 2025

25th Floor - Patti Smith Group [from Easter]

pounding out accentuated syllables
title at the end of each long stanza
a refrain
made
pound
on
table
clear

J. S. Bach: Air on the G String - The Canadian Brass [from High, Bright and Clear]

it's the same tune
and
(presumed) arrangement of notes
but
among different instruments 

the intimacy of it
has shifted 

brass
seems to be at an intrinsically greater distance
than strings

Serenade - Keith Eisenbrey - Keith Eisenbrey [recorded May 17, 2011]

a few bobbles but otherwise fine
the moments all have their proper character 

our quiet private lives

Love's Been Good To Me - Nina Simone [from A Single Woman]

life story spillage
prompts empathic self-remembering
recollections of our past lives

September 7, 2025

Banned Rehearsal 511 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Anna K, Aaron Keyt, Neal Kosály-Meyer

Walla Walla, WA
an americana collision
we are drunkenlikely sprawled in our corners
holding forth 

reduction
to the crucial balance points
of an articulated skelataloid 

elements of composition
scattered among the agents of music 

earmind deals with distinguished objects
pulling the physical signal apart
into groups
by the particularities
of their manners of occupying resonating space 

a surfactant
populating the experience of sound
with thises and thatses 

we come upon a hymnodic shipwreck
fragment it 

applause
as practiced in current concert society:
a social ritual
is played out
involving a deep sense of intimate communal engagement 
among performing agents
and listening agents
at the end of the ritual
the applause
scrubs and rinses away
that social mode
so that
we may safely return
to normative social behavior
the more enthused
have become
the listening agents
the more enthusiastically
they must scrub and rinse
for life to go on
as before 

auctioneering scat
sold! to December! 

the session coheres
like a wandering conversation
but the places to which it wanders
are
to this music
what dreams are
to poetry 

((Sol!d to Decem!ber)?)
or
((So!ld to Dece!mber)?)

Czech toy chicken 

collectively communal dreams
of a collectively communal music 

manifesters of musics

{journal entry of October 30, 2006:

pretty much a blowout waste}

Walla Walla, WA
September 8, 2025

Surrounded by Water - Scurvy Bastards [from Battle Born]

condition of an island state

Lids Film (Chapel Event Mix) - Keith Eisenbrey [September 4, 2008]

occasional:
designed specifically for use at an occasion

Black Sail - Chastity Belt [from No Regrets]

their sound has a warm pointedness
high on the palate
forward

Chickadee's Chicks' Cheeps - Keith Eisenbrey [May 27, 2018]

doing their best
among the hostile roars and snarls
of hominids and their machines 

they get very excited when food shows up

Home - Bad Hug (with Bree O'C) [from Dirt Cult Records: Dead Bars - You Don't Have To Be Cool]

as seen from afar

Madrigals, Book VIII: Ardo, ardo, avvampo, mi struggo - Claudio Monteverdi - Concerto Italiano, Rinaldo Alessandrini

to be sung with straight faces
difficult passages await 

a music of extreme moods

Von Gott will Ich nicht lassen, BuxWV 220 - Dieterich Buxtehude - Simone Stella

simple motions beneath
are a ground
for the elaborate ornamentation
of the leading organ stop

Sehet, welch eine Liebe hat uns der Vater erzeiget, BWV 64 - Johann Sebastian Bach - Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra, Amsterdam Baroque Choir, Ton Koopman

how many musics can music hold
sometimes they line up nicely
to make a narrow passage 

musics in their private quarters 

we are instructed

Walla Walla, WA
September 9, 2025

Mazurka in C Major, Op. 33 #3 - Frédéric Chopin - Garrick Ohlsson

this C Major hangs gently above a garden pool

Album für die Jugend: Kleiner Morgenwanderer, Op. 68 #17 - Robert Schumann - Éric Le Sage

refreshing ear stroll

Années de Pèlerinage, Année II, S. 161: VII. Après une lecture du Dante. Fantasia quasi sonata - Franz Liszt - Beatrice Berrut

painting scenes and telling stories
the soundtrack existed
as a force in culture
prior to film 

music begat film 

the whole of the keyboard
at instant
sonorous
command

Prelude in G minor, Op 37 #4 - Alexander Scriabin - Dmitri Alexeev

poking around in Liszt's old digs

Tippin' Out - Pink Anderson , Simmie Dooley [from That Devilin' Tune]

the noble honk of a kazoo
introduces a comic song
with slick dance moves

Sonatas and Interludes: Sonata XII - John Cage - Boris Berman

this dance gestures
in prescribed poses

Yes Indeed! - Ray Charles [from Yes Indeed!]

somber reed organ
is just the staid book cover
over the party inside

Please Mister Postman - The Beatles [from With The Beatles]

what is the postman post? 
currentman? 

waiting for the postman

Piece of My Heart - Big Brother and The Holding Company [from Cheap Thrills]

if this continent
has a vital music genius
it is to be found
in its wild variety of fountains

The Prettiest Star - David Bowie [from Aladdin Sane]

glittered up Weimar
to be danced with hat and cane
rank after rank
of tailored trousers
and hosiered legs

That's How I Feel (alternative mix) - Sun Ra [from Languidity]

the music gathers itself together
tribal
on the road
keep everyone on the inside

Intermezzo 3 - Keith Eisenbrey - Keith Eisenbrey [recorded September 2, 1983]

razorwire sevenths
atop a tall stone wall

It's The Most Wonderful Time of the Year - London Symphony Orchestra [from Joy to the World]

bringing the soundstage into your own home I just hope they all got paid

Walla Walla, WA
It's Personal - Lennie Tristano [from Note To Note]

this music
is how a mind works

to the extent there is a common notion behind it all
that notion
involves tracing
where that notion
might have been
as it lay
once
some time ago

In Case You Forgot - Aretha Franklin [from A Rose Is Still a Rose]

remarkable show-off vocal performance

Song of Solomon 3:1-4 - Keith Eisenbrey - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey [recorded at Jack Straw Cultural Center, Seattle, May 17, 2005]

I do believe
this was the same take I heard last
I must have been neglectful of my records

Touch My Body - Mariah Carey [from E=Mc2]

fashion show
runway ready

Banned Rehearsal 848 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Aaron Keyt, Neal Kosály-Meyer [November 25, 2013]

we swap roles easily
Neal falls into songness as into a trap
but
we lapse into a quiet thought
about notes
repetition attracts notice
the trick
is to distract it
lead it back into the room vibe 

how tightly we can choose
to clutch
to our retracement thread
our way back
our justification
our sensible identity

Sail Away - Juicy Thompson and the Snuggle Regime [from Self Untitled Cassingle]

those guitars have heard The Ventures
an act
or a kind of channeling?
I'm rather inclined to the former
but perhaps that's a bias?

Arnheim - Keith Eisenbrey - Keith Eisenbrey [July 23, 2023]

The fun
is
in seeming to play by the rules

Rocky Road - Alabama Sacred Heart Singers [from Anthology of American Folk Music]

shape note time turner 

at verses' ends
the articulation is brief
and without drama or fussiness

Walla Walla, WA
Functional - Thelonious Monk [from Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane]

he seems to fumble into remarkable places
as though as surprised as we
by its path
though the distance back
is solidly known 

pepper in octaves

Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer - The Crystals [from A Christmas Gift For You from Phil Spector]

big sound with no elbow room

On a Clear Day (You Can See Forever) - Bill Evans  [from Alone]

performed at multiple sequential tempos
so that
it seems like the endings of tune segments
should not be upon us so soon

Stratus - Billy Cobham [from Spectrum]

the dawn of the synthesizer
music's newest toy
it can make notes go by really fast 

but now it's time to get funky

So Blue - Prince [from For You]

certain amount of campy in it

Don't Be Scared - Yoko Ono [from Milk and Honey]

proverbial advice/re-assurance song

Walla Walla, WA
September 10, 2025

Serenade - Keith Eisenbrey - Keith Eisenbrey [recorded August 6, 1988]

makes excellent use of the dynamic contrast available on clavichord 

I could have done a better job tuning it
oh well 

an excellent performance past me

includes a second take of the canon
(aborted) (try again)
at a somewhat brisker tempo
interrupted by cat
(start over)
I'm getting frustrated now
{then}
I rather like the slow version now though
relax dude
said a bad word

Middleclock - Helena Alexander [from The City Sketches]

a busy intersection from above
sped up
never the same
never changing

Banned Rehearsal 512 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Anna K, Aaron Keyt, Neal Kosály-Meyer [October 24, 1998]

where's the pick?
we go for the big sound
bang bang bang honk
honk honk finding
a new recipe for shrill 

passed by an early sonata of mine

{journal entry of November 6, 2006:

a differential
in the assertiveness
or effective assertiveness
of the rhythmic precision of the participants
from
just so
to
sloppy execution
more apparent faster
and more cyclic
the impulse stream layers
provide complications
but not complexity necessarily 

Aaronsbundlerkazoo 

ends up as rather a blast the brains out session}

Hollywood - Madonna [from American Life]

the composition of notes
is not over-cluttered
fantasy mag spread 

Walla Walla, WA
National Anthem Mix - Keith Eisenbrey [September 4, 2008]

an interesting way to explore the Chapel Event
{of that September}
from the whole
to
its parts
to
one of its parts
then
to
a part of that first part's part

A Body Like Mine - Spinning Whips [from Sentimental Groover]

rock music
as incarnated thusly
a form of performative irony
right down to the album titles

Gradus 334 - Neal Kosály-Meyer - Neal Kosály-Meyer [May 28, 2018]

blatant patterns do not appear here
a music sans blatancy 
it has more patience than most musics too

another contrarian angle at Cagean silence:
as a blatant means
to clarify
what exactly it is
that music
as such
transgresses
just by being 

I've been here so long I've forgotten how many notes are currently in play 

we spiral in
our listening
is a motion through experience 

a new note has snucked in

Pure Lands Pt. 1 - Ensemble Unnamable [from Fourth Floor]

an atmosphere
a mood
a vibe
a sensibility
a color 

we hear the sounds of a moving body
and so
we must not only listen
but move

Silvery Moon - Buddy Berton [from That Devilin' Tune]

a lost accent
from the lost stage 

plays lots of notes

Think It Over -Buddy Holly and The Crickets [collected from Dave Marsh's The Heart of Rock & Soul]

soda fountain bravado

Island In The Sun - The Brothers Four [from The Brothers Four Cross Country Concert]

the romantic exotic
off in the South Pacific
or perhaps the Caribbean
ah! 
Calypso is the tell 

don't worry cupcake
they sing it white

Walla Walla, WA
I'll Remember April - Bill Evans [from Some Other Time/The Lost Session from the Black Forest]

the man whose fingers think faster than yours 

lets 'em loose
on a Tatumesque stroll
through a tune

Steppin' in Her I. Miller Shoes - Betty Davis [from Betty Davis]

legendary character sketch
fashion spread

Ride The Music - Carole King [from Welcome Home]

feel good life
just come on in
set yourself down somewhere

Intermezzo 4 - Keith Eisenbrey [recorded September 2, 1983]

softened intervals
malleable voices

Who Is Sylvia - The King's Singers [from Chanson d'amour]

for the fastidious among us

Naughty Girl - Beyoncé [from Dangerously In Love]

dance of the fewer veils

For Anyone - Star Anna [from Go To Hell]

restless under pressure

Goodbye - Goodness from [Goodness: 1995-1998]

muttering to oneself
how to kiss off

Song of Solomon 3:1-3 (050510 final) - Keith Eisenbrey - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey [recorded at Jack Straw Cultural Center, May 10, 20025]

the final sung note
doesn't need to be held to anything like full value

Day's Getting Longer - Smokestack and the Foothill Fury [from A Live Wire]

plays his kit like a steam pump

Walla Walla, WA
September 11, 2025

Interview (beginning) - Betty Eisenbrey, Dick Eisenbrey, Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey [November 30, 2013]

on that Thanksgiving weekend
we sat down with my mom and dad
to talk to my mom
about her memories
regarding her music career
et cetera  

at that time it was clear
that her memory was beginning to fail
she started conducting the Lake Washington Singers in 1957
and the Church Choirs of Bellevue First Methodist in 1957:
though
on evidence of the picture that is mentioned
as being mom and my older brother (1957)
being
I believe
of mom and me (1959)
which accords with the dates of the recordings in our archives 

had the choirs at Bellevue First for 12 years
then there came a pastor
who thought that women
should have nothing to do
that wasn't taking care of babies
making mom's leadership of the adult choir
difficult and finally untenable

Slowly, Away - Triptet [from Slowly, Away]

drifting free of any apparent gravitational center
freefall gently abated

Gradus 385
Gradus 385 - Neal Kosály-Meyer - Neal Kosály-Meyer [July 24, 2023]

the music is over there
what might be behind it 

from
there
wander
where 

begin at the center

listen back
from one's wanderwhereat 

we plumb toward the lower ends
improvising a rung
is an exploration of it
manifesting
its uniqueness 

deep into sonorous thought
the urge
to make sense
to oneself
outs
ones self's sense
of sense

Melancholy Baby - The Dorsey Brothers [from That Devilin' Tune]

the slower introductory music
is time to ask a partner to dance 

lightly bouncing across the hipbone

Spectra - Gunther Schuller - Chicago Symphony Orchestra, James Levine

upon the wreck of expressionism
grew the barnacles of electronic sound synthesis
soon
they engaged in a mutual imitation society 

to be esoteric
in the latest fashion 

residual spotlight
of the police state 

like the planets
but with colors?
descriptive or depictic 

this sounds
exactly
like that music
that was once
titularly described
as
agony
this
is that
modern music
seems so remarkably old-fashioned now
certainly Viennese influenced
but with its own concerns too 

there appears no obvious reason
this music should continue
nor any
that it cease ever 

well
OK
now we have all this new energy to deal with somehow 

forensics has arrived

I Like It Like That (Part 1) - Chris Kenner [from Land of 1000 Dances]

which is the name of the place 

singing with his back up buddies

Infant Eyes - Wayne Shorter [from The Classic Blue Note Recordings]

laid out smooth and mellow as midnight in July

Doggin' Around - Michael Jackson [from Music & Me]

wholly inappropriate in so many ways

Pointblank - Bruce Springsteen [from Live at The Roxy July 7, 1978]

all gestures enhanced with sparkles
but in the end
another blame the woman song
big drama
build
pull back to end
all meaningful and all

Think Too Much (b) - Paul Simon from Hearts and Bones]

finally unscramble us

In Session at The Tintinabulary

September 7, 2025

Devizes - Keith Eisenbrey

September 8, 2025

Banned Rehearsal 1133 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Steve Kennedy, Aaron Keyt

Postscripts

Drops

Keith Eisenbrey 27: Figure Studies 2010 (part 2)

More from a series of solo piano improvisations

recordings of my compositions (and more!) can be found at keitheisenbrey.bandcamp.com - free to download or stream

Saturday, November 16, 2019

Playlist

Preface

"The kind of analysis undertaken in connection with such constructional systems as those of Carnap's Aufbau, and The Structure of Appearance also represents an intensely practical matter for art, since the very identity of an art entity is a theoretical construct quite remote from the pragmatics of object-identification in the physical world. Art entities, in fact, may be said to have identity as entities of their types just by virtue of being identifiable as interpretations of a general notion of entityhood within that type. Therefore, the extent to which they can be determinately recognized as particular entities of their types depends first of all on the generality of the concept of entityhood they are regarded as interpreting. And secondly, the degree of their particularity depends on the number of intervening concepts that can be, or that are, invoked between the atomic and the global levels, concepts which distinguish and order subentities as the ultimate determinants of the global structure. Thus the salient characteristic of an art entity may, most generally, be considered to be its 'coherence'; and the extent of its coherence, and hence of its particularity as a work of art, may be considered to reside in the degree and nature of determinate complexity exhibited in the ordered structure of subentities of which it is a resultant."
Benjamin Boretz "Nelson Goodman's Language of Art, from a Musical Point of View
(for the Sixty-Sixth Annual Meeting of the American Philosophical Association, Eastern Division, on December 29, 1969, at a symposium devoted to Nelson Goodman's Languages of Art.)"
- reprinted in "Being About Music Textworks 1960-2003 J. K. Randall Benjamin Boretz Volume 1: 1960-1978"

Texts

Live

November 9, 2019
Seattle Composers' Salon
Chapel Performance Space, Good Shepherd Center, Seattle

Carson Farley
Garrett Fisher
Clement Reid
Satchel Henneman

Two Movements from Mirror Sonatina - Carson Farley
Clement Reid, piano

has a map
we build congruities and how
Satie and silent film pianistimism

Clement played magnificently. This is a huge sonatina.

Seven Raga ??s - Garrett Fisher
GraceAnn Cummings, piano

we are introduced to, and led to believe in, those cadenza cliches because they are masks, clever and attractive, somewhere between Short & Johnson
experience sharing

Explorations (excerpts) - Clement Reid
Clement Reid, piano

My issue: I was having trouble hanging with it, mostly due to exhaustion (long week at work). However, I do have some stray thoughts about playing "inside the piano" that don't necessarily pertain to this piece exactly.

A. The mechanism of a piano's action is a technology that has been fussed with for over 200 years, in order to maximize the flexibility and transparency with which an operator can manipulate the hammers and pedals. The scaling and voicing is adjusted meticulously to provide a believably homogeneous sound across its range.

B. Most pianists spend countless hours in the practice of playing the keys (outside the piano) and the vast majority of the literature is designed to be thus played.

C. Pianos have an exciting quantity of long wires, a huge soundboard, and all sorts of other ways to make sound upon them.

D. While the piano keyboard itself has become largely regularized, the parts inside, both the actions and the frames upon which the wires are stretched, exhibit a surprising variety of designs, such that a pianist can't rely on finding that the harp practiced upon will be the same as the harp found at performance. Especially at the lower end, where the wires cross over each other, a needed note might be found to be inaccessible at performance time.

E. The confluence of the above has possible consequences, among which might be: A performer might be less comfortable, and thus, possibly, less effective, playing inside than outside; The awkwardness of reaching over the keyboard and pinboard into the innards can be a fraught theater.

:: I have written reams of piano music, and only once*, long ago, indicated anything that wasn't "fingers on the keys." I haven't found a need for it yet. I am not a purist however, and willingly improvise in and out and all over anything I can find, pianos included. ::

*Well, twice, if I count clavichord scores and include the suggestion in Another that the performer might try playing the piece without first filling the instrument with ping pong balls.

X (where X = Your Name), thus: Trevor O'Laughlin - Satchel Henneman
Trevor O'Laughlin, double bass

specific
co-intonations
if there were more frames
with a yell and story

this was quite lovely

Recorded

November 10, 2019
Sonata in D Major, K. 53 - Domenico Scarlatti - Pieter-Jan Belder

We delight in the ease with which the charge can be communicated through the medium of the structure of the diatonic collection.

remapping

What exactly is this tonal meaning overlay that we so easily call forth
and to what deafness does it tempt us?

Symphony 3 "Camp Meeting" - Charles Ives - St. Louis Symphony Orchestra, Leonard Slatkin

an honest attempt is made to write the National Music of America
his stated aspirations surpassed his executive capabilities

we sure do like a rousing march

dense with implied intent
surreal metrical modulations

Disguises - The Who [from A Quick One]

music
in a box
in a box

Religious Vomit - Dead Kennedys [from Plastic Surgery Disasters/In God We Trust]

an eruptive

Assembly Rechoired 8 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey [November 1986]



Isn't this what all newlyweds do?

(getting a hum in one channel or a buzz)

Is that the bugle? It would have been new to us, from Coupeville
(Freudishly mal-typed Coupleville)
 a Honey Moon bought antique.

the sound this projects to us is not the sound one could possibly imagine as somewhere from which a professional would deign to record. Our habitat.

A new bell?
Possibly, this is that time in my life when I no longer knew all that I had. I was rich. I play duets with myself as a way of keeping my brain active, like crosswords.

What is the acoustic structure of the dreaded 60 cycle hum? discern within the Fourier transform which perturbations arose mathematically and which evidence outside influence.

Our neighbor comes by for a favor and a cat skritch. We leave it to the cats. Anarchy and Amnehitabel. Listen close. We hear their purr. We show sounds to the tape. Those cats are making noise at us. We demonstrate how making coffee sounds back in the day. Espresso spaceship landing. That was Amnehitabel purring. We were so pleased we could make espresso together in our own home.

cast a nets
the Funmaker makes fun in the big house out front

Karen castanets
OR
was this elsewhere???

Anvil - Aaron Keyt [from November Choses]

an underground conspiracy of metals
longest delayed ever of the fourth fugal entrance
at the end
the waiting for it game

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs - Nate Omdal [from Seattle Jazz Composer's Collective Volume 1]

improv rudiments
the drumming

November 12, 2019
St. Rage Book Launch - Karen Eisenbrey, Neal Kosály-Meyer et al [August 2016]

open with a song
Carol Anne would have been ready to go.

this book's sequel will come out in just a few days!!
What's in the bottle?
Fairy tale flavor
the sequel in the works even then

November 14, 2019
Sonata in A minor, K. 54 - Domenico Scarlatti - Pieter-Jan Belder

such fragile thoughts
pried apart
evaporate

rhythmic relations among the augmentations of contrapuntal rates of sequencing
oo la la! Eat that, Brahms!

Carmina Burana - Carl Orff - San Francisco Symphony & Chorus, Herbert Blomstedt, Lynne
Dawon, John Daniecki, Kevin McMillan

admirably articulate, dynamics less compressed than often on recorded media. An actual stepped continuum. lighter sound smaller forces allow crisp quick tempos (not always exactly together, alas, but usually so)

demonstrates how little gargantuanism does for it, it-ness-wise.

Theater of tempi of time rates
pulsish.

In Session at the Tintinabury

November 11, 2019

Banned Rehearsal 993 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Steve Kennedy, Aaron Keyt


And then there was pear apple crisp

November 14, 2019
Der Tag, der ist so freudenreich - Keith Eisenbrey


My 2017 chorale setting.

Postscripts

away somewhere weeping and wailing and
panting for breath sonia and polenka
rushed bring stupid behind policeman with

(arranged my tapes in three neat little stacks)
carrying a sack of gold
a bird flutters through the sun

Saturday, November 4, 2017

Playlist

Preface


"Some are explaining that each one is doing the thing each one is doing because they are needing to
be doing that thing, because they are needing to be wanting to be doing that thing, because doing that thing is a thing that is feeding them, because doing that thing is a thing that they are needing to be doing so that they can be ones doing something that they are ones needing to be wanting to be doing, because doing that thing is a thing that is something any one will be doing who is one needing to be one doing some things that this one is needing to be doing, because doing that thing is a thing in some way satisfying that one as being the one being that one." Gertrude Stein - The Making of Americans

Texts

Live

November 3, 2017
Seattle Composers' Salon
Chapel Performance Space, Good Shepherd Center, Seattle

Calvin Senter - Colloquies: Moon, Rain, Sun, Wind - for solo guitar

gently persists in not resolving easy

long long thoughts (yep, Longfellow)

solid quiet presence

admirable patience

Mark Wilson - Kyrie eleison from "God Helmet" - for guitar, soprano, and flute

What glorious close heterophony between soprano and flute! It fairly made the melodic elements leap and kiss above our heads.

Clement Reid - Realizations for Horn and Piano

A richly produced illustrated narrative, of the sort whose pages linger in memory.

Nicole Truesdell - Ghost Story - for piano four hands

How does one signal story telling, musically? Or, how does music signal that it is telling story? This then that sequencing to be sure, but with four hands to play with Nicole also gets plenty of this and also that in play, lapping o'er.

Recorded

October 29, 2017
Banned Rehearsal 431 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Anna K, Aaron Keyt, Neal Kosály-Meyer [July 1996]

one channel aimed in of doors
one channel aimed out of doors
middle passage
industrious at noise making
wrecked and wicked piano sound
in late night dreamy bill evans mode
duet cornet
conjoined banjo
roar from we know not where
subordinate clauses

Banned Rehearsal 619 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Isabel K, Aaron Keyt, Neal Kosály-Meyer [October 2001]


homing in on room for quiet in the large
for explicit thoughts in transparent company
what can be done if considerations of performance just don't come up
such considerations not eschewed
more as if never known
music innocent of outside apprehension as such
rattling in so many ways
so many ways of rattling

In Session at the Tintinabulary

October 30, 2017
Gradus 324 - Neal Kosály-Meyer

not wandering | not circulating | not but contracting | into falling | into inward collapsing

□▄□

suspended spool | waking extend | thought into forward | space alert spreading | out exhibiting delve | back into

Sunday, July 9, 2017

Playlist

Preface

"And it works; the world works, even if it seems to work in frequently deplorable ways. Without judgment, the world doesn't work; without distinctions, there is no world. But of course we're talking about music; and the question is whether that chaotic disparity of sensibilities which underlies the orderly uniformity created by conventional wisdom is not crucially the realm precisely of the aesthetic; the place where the distinctions are precisely the ones that matter at the heart of the enterprise of creative expression. That the well-tempered effort to hear conventionally, in terms of the givens of musical culture, of the distinctions and judgments ontologized within their defined terms, is in fact sensitivity training in the service of a certain particular register of sensitivities, a powerful homogenizing agent which makes possible the conduct of musical life, its way of sorting out issues of performance, of composition, of description, of opinion, as if they all made mutual sense - and thus enabling the intelligible continuity of the cultural institution that enacts and reproduces itself as music, as the reality of what music is.

But . . ."

Benjamin Boretz The Universe of One, And, the Music of the Other Open Space Magazine Issue 15/16 fall 2013/winter 2014


Texts

Live

July 7, 2017
Seattle Composers' Salon
Clinton, Washington - July 9, 2017

Chapel Performance Space, Good Shepherd Center, Seattle

Jessi Harvey - Eden Untamed (selections)

Massive, dense solo piano writing that loosens into an odd narrative || that involves lots of shoving things around, things unwilling to move at all, across surfaces that fight back with dogged persistence.

Jeremiah Lawson - Guitar Sonata in d minor (selections)

The sort of music that speaks high of lowbrow and low of highbrow: Southern Harmony hymnody in slide-guitar arrangement halfway toward dulcimer Appalachian if it weren't so completely guitar, Haydn thinking in the new world.

Jay Hamilton - Out

man with block head wooden seated bare foot on chair || poly-log from speakers voice of neural chaos. Existentially instructive in the language of prosaic doings stop start up down out.

Clement Reid - Theater Piece #2 (selections)

for toy-piano || in the treating seriously of which (which he does) foregrounds the relation of conceptual size across realms: big piece, little instrument. The theater of it for me is the dynamic question of whether the bigness of the piece overwhelms the littleness of the instrument. Even money.



Keith Eisenbrey - Ghosting Doubles (second sighting)

Thank you, Amy Denio, for permitting the use of your tune.


Carson Farley's question hit things brilliantly on the head (thanks! that's probably why it took me aback so effectively) - and I had already chosen the prefatory quotation -  something like (paraphrasing for my own nefarious ends) "why not compose the trajectory from theme to variations, instead of bluntly starting with the finished thingy?"

comment after the fact one: To do so could be another performance of the score. I'd love to hear it.

comment after the fact two: presenting it as I did, in quasi-theme&variations sequence, was an ad hoc decision, since in my thinking about this project all the versions (and others) exist within each other as doubles, ghosts, unperformable as a whole.

comment after the fact three: Scores could be for exploration not performance.

comment after the fact four: Dunno.

comment after the fact five: I didn't.
or less snarkly: This simply was what came out when I started working. Your possibility did glance through my thought process, but this is what finally got written out.

comment after the fact six: In my thinking about composition projects this is a single complex score within a set of three complex scores, which set of three is the eleventh in a set of (probably) seventeen complex complexes of scores named Etudes d'execution imminent upon which I have been engaged for several years now and expect to be so engaged upon for a good bit longer. I take the overarching title of the project with deadly serious intent.

Recorded

July 1, 2017
Die Kunst der Fuge Contrapunctus XI - J. S. Bach - Zoltan Kocsis

This fugue is being shucked, like an oyster, a strongly resistant oyster, an oyster of many shells.

Die Jahreszeiten "Spring"- Haydn - Vienna Symphony Orchestra, Karl Böhm

A phantasmagoria of kinds of singing and singing groups. As in movies it has special effects: word painting: music bits standing in for representation, representing representation.

July 5, 2017
Dropping Shucks - Louis Armstrong's Hot Five [from Hot Fives and Sevens]

loose bolts on this chassis
jalopy rhythm
bumpety b'bump b'bump

After You've Gone - Benny Goodman [from Alan Lowe's That Devilin' Tune]

first: shambling around the house moping blues
then: celebrating around the house not so blues as you think I'm bluesing

A bit of a comic version of what I understand to be a traditional jazz funeral rite: solemn to the grave, then shout to the skies.

Until The Real Thing Comes Along - Snow Valaida [from Alan Lowe's That Devilin' Tune]

Soloist: "Talk to me, boys". Turn-based conversation as structural stratagem. The titular hook low low in the tessitura each time but the last (see BG above).

I Found A New Baby - Don Byas [from Alan Lowe's That Devilin' Tune]

Water ski pull along thrill speed til flip free and soar.

Weary Blues - George Lewis [from Alan Lowe's That Devilin' Tune]

This music is having more fun than you are.

(Ah The Apple Trees) When The World Was Young - Peggy Lee [from Black Coffee]

Never a shiver of a moment more than she needs to make the statement. Tight as a Scriabin Prelude.

Shtiggy Boom - Leo Diamond [a Rescued Record]

Flutter-tongued harmonica!!!! Yowza!!!!

Most Likely You Go Your Way And I'll Go Mine - Bob Dylan [from Blonde on Blonde]

Another kiss-off song from Bob. Is the whole album like this? They get over it better in most of the songs noted above, or at least with better humor.

Sister Fatima - Don McLean [from American Pie]

Almost too precious for sensitive tummies.

Golden Years - David Bowie [from Changes One]

An undetermined count of songs in there, a broth bubbling roiling them through each other to the surface. DB at his best doing what he does best.

KCBOL (draft studio recording of June 2009) - Keith Eisenbrey

As cockamamie as the scheme was, there are many features of this 1980 piano piece that continue to be of use to me. As originally conceived there is a theater bit that goes with it, involving stacking alphabet blocks and ringing finger cymbals (which idea came back as whacking an oil drum at the beginning of Five Movements as performed at Bard in 1984). The original performers were Andrew Buchman and me. The midmost movement of the five is a two-note piece for piano four-hands.

July 6, 2017
Ride Me Into The Sun - The Velvet Underground [from Another View]

They'd been working on some stuff and this is a page from their sketchbook.

Banned Rehearsal 248 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Aaron Keyt, Bill Meyer, Marilyn Meyer [February 1991]

small sounds close up moments gel but between gel moments fleeting liminal passages

what passes for a steady rhythm here is the jounce of an overladen wagon hugely wheeled downslope in self abandon bump stop in ditch shake


Banned Rehearsal 424 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Anna K, Aaron Keyt, Neal Kosály-Meyer [May 1996]

The so-called "Acronymiad", intent on filling the space with sound the acronyms are partially effaced.


In Session at the Tintinabulary

July 3, 2017
Banned Telepath 57 Anchorage 170703 - Aaron Keyt
Banned Telepath 57 Seattle 170703 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Steve Kennedy, Neal Kosály-Meyer
Banned Rehearsal 938 170703 - Karen Eisenbrey, Keith Eisenbrey, Steve Kennedy, Aaron Keyt, Neal Kosály-Meyer

Saturday, May 7, 2016

Playlist

Preface

"A tone, once duplicated, becomes not only out of perceived pulse, but out of perceived time; or rather changes the linearity of temporal perception, particularly when moments of duplication, of time doubled back on itself, occur contemporaneously with moments occurring in, for lack of a better word, the normal flow." - Aaron Keyt, Considering "Group Variations II for Computer -  The Open Space Magazine, issue 19/20 - Fall 2015, Spring 2016

Texts

Live

May 6, 2016
Seattle Composers' Salon

Chapel Performance Space, Good Shepherd Center, Seattle

Jake Svendsen
Centipede, for solo alto sax, opens with a midrange leap that brought to my ear, unbidden and immediate, the ambitus of the opening sax sweep in Sarah Vaughan's brilliant recording of Smoke Gets In Your Eyes on No Count Sarah. But it was as though we had appeared there in the middle of a series of brilliant pitch parkour, feline, lifting into higher planes by simple shift of weight, the glory of Basie's orchestra lighting our way as we ascend the partials on the merest quiver of tongue.

Sheila Bristow
Two Songs for mezzo soprano and piano, part of a set in progress on a dance theme. Songs of dance, if you will. The first opened with a series of dyadsingularities on piano marking the vertical pitch space, voice starting at the bottom, climbing  the ladder, or pulling the heights down to the personal, until the dyads detach from themselves, one strand floating up high, another floating low, voice, weightless, between. The second song, on a poem by cummings, is more playful, with rhythms and melody drawing short straight lines, pretending they are planes, and boofing about giddily, like a draw as you go platformer.

Steve Escoffery
Transcendental Object - a lovely quadrophonically projected, computer generated piece. Just that afternoon, while reading an essay about Language ,as a music, I was musing about a possible language that could exist hidden within our spoken tongues, a language that could only be understood by its native speakers, but whose native speakers could use any natural language as its carrier wave. In other words, a native speaker of this hidden language could say anything in any language and, simultaneously, say anything at all in the hidden tongue. Imagine my surprise and delight when I found that Steve had managed to extract it whole and lay it out for us to hear.

Clement Reid
Theater Piece #1 for solo cello - at first blush it sounded like some virtual famous (insert trademark mark here) cello solo from a literally posthumous Shostakovich string quartet. But other than a passing resemblance to the oh so particular chromatic hue of late Shostakovich, I wasn't sure why I would think of that. As it progressed though, as it unfolded itself, all the while carefully refolding in upon itself, covering its tracks, laying it out there thick so as to obscure its swift deepening inward retreat, it became clear. It wasn't the hue of its pitch space, it was the sting of its irony.

Recorded

May 3, 2016
Es erhub sich ein Streit BWV 19 -J. S. Bach - Gächinger Kantorei, Helmut Rilling

Whose is the voice of the chorus? The other's, the other's that is Immediate always, begun always, continued always, The other's that arises from within,  fountain of grace. Whose is the voice of the recitative? Ours, our contemplative voice. Whose is the voice of the solo? The ecstatic's, lifted and held aloft. Whose is the voice of the chorale? Ours, our common voice. Whose is the voice of the permeating chorale melody? The other's, the other's that has always appeared from within.

Saturday, November 7, 2015

Playlist

Live

October 31, 2015
The Pearl Fishers - Bizet
Seattle Opera
McCaw Hall, Seattle

Leaving aside the deeply uncomfortable in-your-face mid-19th Century European attitudes about the 'exotic', there were plenty of things to enjoy - intricate vocal lines, lots of choral singing, and a good mix of solos and ensembles. It is very easy on the ears. The effusive emotional palette was nearly drowned out by the sets, whose colors and patterns seemed intent on out-shouting the music.

November 3, 2015
Cristina Valdés
Meany Hall, Seattle

Cristina, as always, played with clarity and thoughtfulness, doing her utmost not to get in the way of what she's playing. Truly a breath of fresh air.

Cantéyodjayâ - Messiaen
Messiaen

A group of astounding textural/rhythmic episodes marred by a refrain that sounds thrown away. In the notes M writes that it "gives unity to the work". I couldn't think of why such fabulous material would need unity, exactly.

Tres Piezas para piano - Jorge Villavicencio Grossmann

An organism, spacious, chantlike, emerges from its own roots. Completely believable.

fardanceCLOSE - Chaya Czernowin

Contrasts of size, of registers, of clottedness and transparency. I could have listened to this longer - or again for that matter.

Among Red Mountains- John Luther Adams

Full of big bold changes that make little difference.

Grossmann
Variations for Piano, op. 27 - Webern

Folded shapes, contraptual, un-nesting themselves in new ways each time we pick one up.

Piano Counterpoint - Reich

Tuning dials turned here and there to pick out different parts of the spectrum.

November 6, 2015
Seattle Composers' Salon
Chapel Performance Space, Good Shepherd Center, Seattle

Nadya Kadrevis

I was taken by the peculiar narrative person of this music. My first thought was that it is like a film score, providing a sonic point of view of a visual sequence, but a visual sequence that is very nearly, but not quite, in the first-person singular - the so-close-as-to-be-nearly-first-person second person, the music in the position of a close observer of a close observer.

Clement Reid

I had forgotten, or didn't know, that Clement plays not just piano but guitar too - a trick I have never been able to manage. I liked his notion of "clumps of ideas".

Neal Kosály-Meyer

This silence is your own.

Nicole Truesdell

Violin and piano each finish the sentences of the other, person and place spilling into the same cup.

Beth Fleenor

Beth brings more ideas to the table in 10 minutes than there are crickets in Tennessee. Pretty much leaves me, gape-jawed, astonished, eating dust. Love it.

Recorded

November 1, 2015
Trio in C minor op. 101 - Brahms - Istomin-Stern-Rose Trio

Development is explored as a deep unraveling, the music coming apart, forced asunder by its own flexing.

Peacherine Rag - Joplin - William Albright

Syncopation as a flavor of rubato.

Passacaille - Satie - Frank Glazer

Unravels more quickly than Brahms, but much more comfortable with it.

Symphony in F-sharp minor, No. 10 - Mahler (Cooke) - Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra, Simon Rattle

A first person account of the experience of dying.

First Movement: It begins by levitating, never sinking to the utmost bottom. The phrases inflate and blossom, impossibly large, in long ocean swells of rhythmic time. Comforted again and again. The intensity of the expression is the disease that consumes, lurks.

Second Movement: About the business of finishing up, assembling scenes, back stage.

Third Movement: Quick alternations of state, nagging thoughts intercut with other distractions.

Fourth Movement: Crisis, clinging to the happy place, adrift on the dire abyss, invisible. The motor slows to a stop, fading past nothingness.

Fifth Movement: The passage beyond, confused, as if hearing the undersides of the most recent fading past nothingness. Infinitely slow easing back into bliss, long melodies leap through realms of realms. Breaking through. Plunging in one dimension, suspended in another, the moment when the bass drum does not come in is the moment we realize it was not a barrier keeping us from life, forcing us into death, rather it was what kept us back, the last tether. Now we can go on.

In Session at the Tintinabulary

November 1, 2015
Tambourine Quartet - Keith Eisenbrey

Karen and I were riffing about a scene in the novel she's writing when out popped the idea of a tambourine quartet. Once an idea like that is in the air the only option is to act. We had to buy a fourth tambourine to fill the quota. Darn!

November 2, 2015
Gradus 278 151102 - Neal Kosály-Meyer

Atmosphere in the sense of a 3-D, or Music-D, map - parameters of sound indexing parameters of temperature, pressure, humidity, the shapes of clouds in sound.

Exchange (continued) - see part one here.


(Keith) Riffing in contrapunctilio obligato:
Neal Kosály-Meyer:
Except that it seems that you DO have a notion that has a quite particular meaning:   that of being amputated or severed from that which you don't wish it to be amputated or severed from, or of being the instrument or victim of murder.
Keith Eisenbrey:
I don't have a way of understanding it that I like, that I would want to believe Cage meant. I don't want to believe Cage is a monster (or more precisely, that this is a monstrous statement), but I haven't been offered an alternative.
N:
It feels more direct to me to think of the sound AS nature, or as just being itself, rather than being an emanation, messenger or intermediary.   As when Beckett said that Finnegans Wake is not about a thing, it is the thing.
K:
For me this ignores that sound only exists for us through mediation. Direct perception isn't an option (at least for me), outside of divine intervention (which I don't rule out).
N:
Using the trappings of concert music certainly thickens the plot, especially back in the day when musicians and conductors would ignorantly or intentionally sabotage pieces like Atlas.   Nowadays recordings like this one or the SEM Ensemble's seem to me to offer a different and refreshing thing that a set-in-its-ways beast like a symphony orchestra can do.   Hearing orchestras do repertoire like this well actually gives me hope for music and I guess for humanity.
K:
Played well or ill isn't the problem. Either way it has been sucked into the prestige factory, stamped with a brand name.
N:
Hearing Cage played well always feels me to me intensely human and intensely uttersome, generally requiring significant engagement, attention to fine detail, a respect for the composer and what he has made.   I guess I find it more exciting when what is being uttered is a sound formed and contemplated in as much detailed glory and mystery as is possible to form and contemplate, and often mysterious as utterance, just as often serendipitously connecting to the rest of the piece in a theatre or a phrase or an arc that can be as extraordinarily compelling as if it had been the result [of] an intended design, and often the more enjoyable because I know there was no such intention.
K:
I have never been convinced that there was no such intention, and yet I often enjoy performances of Cage's music.
N:
As indicated, I don't think sounds cannot utter if we're actually listening to them.   There is perhaps an implicit metaphysic in Cage that utterance, consciousness, feeling, thought are not exclusively human qualities or attributes, but are generally present in all things.   At least that's the way I like to imagine the universe, not privileging thought feeling and design as being things that only humans do, but as being inherent properties of all manifestations of matter and energy.   Can't be proved or demonstrated one way or the other, obviously.   Imagining it that way, for me, makes the universe more fun, friendly and less lonely, I guess.   Cage's music played well usually makes it feel more likely to me that this is in fact the way things are.
K:
So thought-privileged sounds, as sounds themselves, are utterances of themselves, utterances of their own thinking, and therefore have everything present in them that would be present in them even if you didn’t think of them as being only themselves. As a way of understanding what Cage meant it seems to me like a fancy way to have your cake and eat it too.
N:
I would argue that privileging thought, feeling, design etc as exclusively human, and narrowly defining "utterance" to conform with that is the more amputating and murderous act, and the sort of thing that defines what Freud called the General Neurosis, that which makes us, as Nietzsche would have it, the "Sick Animal."    I don't need all music to be like Cage's, but I definitely need Cage's music among those I hear and contemplate--for me it opens kinds of doors and windows OUT of the sickness that hardly anybody else's does.
K:
How did Freud get in here? Anyway, I don’t believe I privilege TFDe as exclusively human, but rather that human TFDe are a privilege of being human. The TFDe of other’s are distinctly other, fabulously alien. Corrolarily, my own personal TFDe are exclusively, ineluctably, mine, they are not those of others. When I hear the music as an other’s utterance it is precisely the otherness of that utterance that I value.
N:
I'd add that all of this very much validates and confirms the work I've taken on with Gradus.    Among lots of things, that project is very much about taking that Cagean sound-in-itself notion and carrying it into a way of playing which is not dependent on the strictly composed ways that JC employed.    Your continued enthusiasm for Gradus means even more to me given the frustrations you still have with Cage, since it feels like I'm managing to transmit what's most important to me about him in a way that you can receive without as much ambivalence as you experience with Cage's own compositions.   Must be doin my job.
K:
Please see my copious, frequent, and often enthusiastic, comments on Gradus through the decades. Apropos of this discussion, the greater part of my frustration with Cage is in understanding what he was talking or writing about. The music I have heard is (apropos of this discussion) problematic in the sense that I have trouble lining it up with (some of) the talk about it.
N:
P.S.   Felt I needed to add that my final response (to your bit beginning "If emptying the sound of its utterance-hood . . .")  was not meant to be as harsh or contrarian as it may read.   That came out because it hit me that the imagery of amputation and murder were reminding me of something on point, which was Norman Brown's close reading of Freud, Life Against Death, especially the sections in which he traces the early developmental crises and their culmination in the Oedipal phase.  Brown emphasizes that these are not simply "normal" developmental phases however universal, but tragic and traumatic experiences that each of us has gone through, and that the final result, the mature human ego, is in fact something which is profoundly amputated or castrated from that which it would be better not to have been amputated or castrated from.    Freud's heartbreaking insight is that we are as a species burdened with an awful and constitutional illness out of which it is difficult to see the way out.   Brown sees more hope than Freud, partly through a re-thinking of psychoanalysis at a social level rather than just individual, but also in ways that artists might envision different, healthier ways of being human.
K:
Freud AND Brown! Yikes! We’re not gonna have enough pie! I was the one who chose the murder metaphor, perhaps I can clarify with less dire imagery:
Scene One: I hear the sound of a violin. Is that sound the utterance of the violin or of the violinist? Which would I rather do without? Cage’s “the sound as itself” suggests to me he would rather have the utterance of the violin and do without the violinist. I come down on t’other side.
Scene Two: I hear the sound of thunder. Is that sound an utterance? If not, it an accident of the sudden expansion of an air mass, or whatever other materialist explanation you prefer. If so, of what (or of whom) is it an utterance? If it is an utterance then it is the utterance of something or of somewhom, of nature (as placeholder for any number of concepts concerning the greater other out there), of a deity, or of God. If I’m serious about it’s being an utterance then I must accept the utterer, even if I created the utterer on the fly from the concept of utterance itself.
Scene Three: A child says “I love you”. Sounds as themselves or child?
(Neal) Responds to Riffing in contrapunctilio obligato:
N:
Taking the liberty of removing one stratum (my previous contributions).   Hopefully things will retain coherence without it. 
K:
I don't have a way of understanding it that I like, that I would want to believe Cage meant. I don't want to believe Cage is a monster (or more precisely, that this is a monstrous statement), but I haven't been offered an alternative.
N:
Realized this may be an important question:   Which Cage writings have you read?   If your response is to a quoted “Allow sounds to be themselves,” rather than to the article or essay in which he said that, the whole context may help.   The pieces in Silence and A Year From Monday pretty clearly state his take on things, and have never come across as monstrous, at least to me.  If you HAVE read some of them, and your perplexity remains, here’s what I’ve got for you at the moment.    Cage’s attempt to remove ego from composition and playing, to let sounds be themselves is part of a tradition:  Buddhist, Taoist, Upanishadist, and in the west represented by Eckhart and John of the Cross, among others.   The Zen goal to see your original face before you were born, Eckhart’s “I pray God to rid me of God,”   John of the Cross’s “Nothing nothing nothing and at the mountaintop nothing.”   All the same idea and goal, and the crafters of each statement knew they were dealing in paradox, in that these are all extraordinary personalities working with extraordinary and very individual craft toward the goal of extinguishing ego.   And the Zen Masters, Eckhart, Juan and Cage are definitely smart enough to know what they’re doing—none of this is naïve self-contradiction.   Rather all share the intuition that this mindset is necessary to get where we want to go.
K:
For me this ignores that sound only exists for us through mediation. Direct perception isn't an option (at least for me), outside of divine intervention (which I don't rule out).
N:
As an artist I always want to transcend mediation whether or not that is possible.   Direct perception is essential (at least for me), and I must further hold that divine intervention is a constant, though doubt and worry about this point never leave us alone.
K:
Played well or ill isn't the problem. Either way it has been sucked into the prestige factory, stamped with a brand name.
N:
Don’t know that that prestige factory is any worse than any of the others.   We want connection, revelation, ecstasy, partnership with the divine, yet we must constantly deal with conformity, stupidity, bullying and branding.   To my mind it makes a difference anytime artists do beautiful things in defiance of all that.   I heard Seattle Symphony do that at least twice last year playing Messiaen and Ives.   That recording of Atlas likewise breaks through whatever cynicism or hypocrisy may be going on in that world.   As the Irishman entering the bar in the old story said, “Is this a private fight or can anybody get in?”
K:
I have never been convinced that there was no such intention, and yet I often enjoy performances of Cage's music.
N:  
I’m starting to get that what you miss in Cage’s talk about what he does is what he’s trying to do, as opposed to what he’s not trying to do.   So here’s my take on a positive, active intentional version of the passive/negative “let sounds be themselves.”   Cage is always attentive either to defining a sound precisely in space and time, or else (in the indeterminate works), providing an example, a direction, and room for a performer to similarly make a sound in as precise and complete a manner as is possible.   The freedom to the performer is exactly one more dimension of that precision and completeness.   Letting go of intentions (chance procedures et al) exist precisely to allow possibilities and detail that would not occur to a composer operating out of taste or habit.   Silence and space receive as much attention as they do in order to frame and give room to these precision made sounds.   Letting sounds be themselves is to allow them dignity as sentient beings—assuming they are only fit to be medium to someone’s message to someone else is from a certain point a view an affront to their dignity and to their souls.   They don’t exist to do something for us or say something between us.  Or rather we all exist simply to delight in and take pleasure in each other, leaving mediation behind or perhaps shining our mutually radiant othernesses on each other otherness.
K:
So thought-privileged sounds, as sounds themselves, are utterances of themselves, utterances of their own thinking, and therefore have everything present in them that would be present in them even if you didn’t think of them as being only themselves. As a way of understanding what Cage meant it seems to me like a fancy way to have your cake and eat it too.
N:  
Not sure what you mean by a thought-privileged sound.   I was using privilege in the way that “white privilege” or “male privilege” is commonly used these days, to critique what I think of as the privilege of solely human sentience, which I don’t buy, and which I think impoverishes our experience of the world.   Privileging human consciousness seems to me to only make us unnecessarily isolated and lonely, and generally and needlessly creates the particularly human malady of alienation.   Zen, Eckhart, the Upanishads, Juan de la Cruz, John Cage pretty much agree on the way out:  Let go of that privileged sentience and let everything else have it as well, which I’m pretty sure everything already does.
K:
How did Freud get in here? Anyway, I don’t believe I privilege TFDe as exclusively human, but rather that human TFDe are a privilege of being human. The TFDe of other’s are distinctly other, fabulously alien. Corrolarily, my own personal TFDe are exclusively, ineluctably, mine, they are not those of others. When I hear the music as an other’s utterance it is precisely the otherness of that utterance that I value.
N:  
Freud’s here because of his particularly and empirically founded theory of the General Neurosis, which I understand Cage in particular as being an artist who profoundly seeks a way out of it, rather than just accepting it.    In order to seek the way out he must enter that paradoxical realm of intentional use of nonintenion, of having nothing to say and saying it.   In this he did not achieve a personality-less anonymity, and that was not his goal.    His utterance is there in the tremendous variety of compositional means he divided to continue working away within this paradox, never assuming there was some mechanical solution, say simply using the magic square of Music of Changes for the rest of his life, or for that matter, making 4’33” and saying, “I did it, I’m done.”
K:
Please see my copious, frequent, and often enthusiastic, comments on Gradus through the decades. Apropos of this discussion, the greater part of my frustration with Cage is in understanding what he was talking or writing about. The music I have heard is (apropos of this discussion) problematic in the sense that I have trouble lining it up with (some of) the talk about it.
N:  
As at the beginning, I think we’d proceed more constructively if we had a particular piece of writing by Cage to chew on.   If you have a particular piece in mind, maybe we could talk about that one.
K:
Freud AND Brown! Yikes! We’re not gonna have enough pie! I was the one who chose the murder metaphor, perhaps I can clarify with less dire imagery:
Scene One: I hear the sound of a violin. Is that sound the utterance of the violin or of the violinist? Which would I rather do without? Cage’s “the sound as itself” suggests to me he would rather have the utterance of the violin and do without the violinist. I come down on t’other side.      
N:   
Cage nearly always wrote for specific performers and collaborated closely with them.   Solo for Piano, that extraordinary and graphically beautiful compendium of compositional techniques is essentially a love letter to David Tudor, made with his virtuosity in mind, his love of puzzles, and the implicit trust in that performer’s capacity to do wonderful things with an indeterminate score.   “Letting the Sound be Itself” takes a village, so everybody involved matters, composer, player, bow violin, room, air, tone.
K:
Scene Two: I hear the sound of thunder. Is that sound an utterance? 
N:
If not, it is an accident of the sudden expansion of an air mass, or whatever other materialist explanation you prefer. If so, of what (or of whom) is it an utterance? If it is an utterance then it is the utterance of something or of somewhom, of nature (as placeholder for any number of concepts concerning the greater other out there), of a deity, or of God. If I’m serious about it’s being an utterance then I must accept the utterer, even if I created the utterer on the fly from the concept of utterance itself.   
All sound is utterance when we listen, and ultimately all sound is the utterance of US, by which I mean, I think, that the more attentively and deeply we listen the more the barriers and the distances go away, the more otherness either goes away or else becomes a radiant other one confronts, or possibly a systole and diastole of oceanic oneness and confronting radiant otherness and back.
K:
Scene Three: A child says “I love you”. Sounds as themselves or child?   
N: 

Both/and, and a gift to me the recipient and obligation on myself as the caregiving recipient to give back.   What if all things are saying just that, and what if we are actually in a position to speak that back to all things?   That child is very likely seeking to re-charge, and carries the hope of that oneness which we as parents actually have the ability to impart if we are attentive to those moments;  And then we have to be ready to let the re-charged child go be OTHER again, and not need to hold on to the union.  It’s a dance and it’s not easy to learn the steps, but I’m persuaded they can be learned.